joke is that the vice president is the stimulus plan for journalists, he train of thought makes all local stops, and he likes to talk a lot. >> a brilliant term. >> he will hammer away on paul ryan's medicare. >> he should. >> and now we have the president hammering away -- about big bird. >> does matter. we will all be interested and watching. lou: that is the question. >> i don't think that anybody votes for vice president. lou: does it matter as much as big bird? >> no. >> you can't talk down about big bird. >> i have a 5 year oil nothing matters as much. lou: it will look great in the private marketplace, where it belongs, where it once was, jim hensen selling rights back a decade ago. now they will go private after going public. >> a fun debate. lou: thank you so much for being here. >> thank you. lou: up next, one view are may have uncovered the real reason that obama campaign is looking to big bird for help, we go to the in box next, stay with us. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eh, eh, eh [